Comments on: Rain delay for storm water rules http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2010/01/21/rain-delay-for-storm-water-rules/ Richmond's Homepage For Business News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:28:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Adam http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2010/01/21/rain-delay-for-storm-water-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-11624 Adam Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:41:04 +0000 http://www.richmondbizsense.com/?p=15019#comment-11624 All you have to do is take a look at the algae and growth in the James in Richmond, then look all around our community of toxic green lawns on every spare plot of land around every home and business. The lawns are covered with fertilizers. These run off into James. Algae and pollutionare the result. What more do you need to know? Since the developers have proven to be poor land users, they need to be reined in. All you have to do is take a look at the algae and growth in the James in Richmond, then look all around our community of toxic green lawns on every spare plot of land around every home and business. The lawns are covered with fertilizers. These run off into James. Algae and pollutionare the result. What more do you need to know? Since the developers have proven to be poor land users, they need to be reined in.

]]> By: Bruce Milam http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2010/01/21/rain-delay-for-storm-water-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-11574 Bruce Milam Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:55:34 +0000 http://www.richmondbizsense.com/?p=15019#comment-11574 If the EPA and the environmentalists can prove that eliminating development will be effective in cleaning up the bay then I'd be all for it. The problem for them is that they cannot prove it. The only way they'll clean up the Bay is to get the farmers of Pennsylvania to train their cows to use a john instead of a stream for their toilets. The EPA has shown that the real issues are not the streams of Virginia but the streams north of us. Let's wait for the full report and release of the science behind it before we destroy one of the few industries left in the United States. If the EPA and the environmentalists can prove that eliminating development will be effective in cleaning up the bay then I’d be all for it. The problem for them is that they cannot prove it. The only way they’ll clean up the Bay is to get the farmers of Pennsylvania to train their cows to use a john instead of a stream for their toilets. The EPA has shown that the real issues are not the streams of Virginia but the streams north of us. Let’s wait for the full report and release of the science behind it before we destroy one of the few industries left in the United States.

]]> By: james http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2010/01/21/rain-delay-for-storm-water-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-11572 james Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:06:55 +0000 http://www.richmondbizsense.com/?p=15019#comment-11572 It should also be noted that there are several bills in the General Assembly to delay implementing these rules until at least December, when the EPA will provide the figures it's now calculating for a Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDL ) process, which Virginia will have to comply with. It makes no sense to put Kaine's rules into effect in July when the EPA is going to change all the numbers upon which those rules were crafted six months later. Developers would have to switch rules in the middle of developing land if the environmentalists had their way -- again, another sign that they just want to bollocks up development all they can. Development which, by the way, contributes to helping lower the multi-million dollar deficits our local governments are facing. It should also be noted that there are several bills in the General Assembly to delay implementing these rules until at least December, when the EPA will provide the figures it’s now calculating for a Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDL ) process, which Virginia will have to comply with. It makes no sense to put Kaine’s rules into effect in July when the EPA is going to change all the numbers upon which those rules were crafted six months later. Developers would have to switch rules in the middle of developing land if the environmentalists had their way — again, another sign that they just want to bollocks up development all they can. Development which, by the way, contributes to helping lower the multi-million dollar deficits our local governments are facing.

]]> By: james http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2010/01/21/rain-delay-for-storm-water-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-11570 james Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:55:58 +0000 http://www.richmondbizsense.com/?p=15019#comment-11570 As a builder I have followed the development of these rules closely. They have been in the making for more than four years now and EVERY SINGLE TIME the building industry asked Kaine's DCR for the science behind these phosphorus mitigation figures, they couldn't present the science. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST!!! Why do you suppose for four years the 0.28 figure was just fine, then, less than a week before the final vote on approval of the regs in December, DCR changes the number back to 0.45? Why? Because EPA data showed that 0.45 had Virginia within 3 percentage points by the end of October of reaching our goal for cleaning up the Bay for 2009! What the builders had said all along was right! DCR couldn't justify the made-up higher number anymore! The "science" Epes claims is so factual not only doesn't exist, BUT IT WAS WRONG!!! What is disingenuous is no-growthers like Epes going after development when the true problem is farmland. DCR statistics show almost 50% more phosphorus, nitrogen and sediment runs off of farmland than development, but the Bay Foundation lets them slide. Epes and his ilk simply want to stop all development and people like Hardiman and Craddock are heroes for working their bleeps off to stop them. The SCIENCE proves conclusively that development is doing its part to stop pollution and clean up the Bay. As a builder I have followed the development of these rules closely. They have been in the making for more than four years now and EVERY SINGLE TIME the building industry asked Kaine’s DCR for the science behind these phosphorus mitigation figures, they couldn’t present the science. BECAUSE IT DOESN’T EXIST!!! Why do you suppose for four years the 0.28 figure was just fine, then, less than a week before the final vote on approval of the regs in December, DCR changes the number back to 0.45? Why? Because EPA data showed that 0.45 had Virginia within 3 percentage points by the end of October of reaching our goal for cleaning up the Bay for 2009! What the builders had said all along was right! DCR couldn’t justify the made-up higher number anymore! The “science” Epes claims is so factual not only doesn’t exist, BUT IT WAS WRONG!!!

What is disingenuous is no-growthers like Epes going after development when the true problem is farmland. DCR statistics show almost 50% more phosphorus, nitrogen and sediment runs off of farmland than development, but the Bay Foundation lets them slide. Epes and his ilk simply want to stop all development and people like Hardiman and Craddock are heroes for working their bleeps off to stop them. The SCIENCE proves conclusively that development is doing its part to stop pollution and clean up the Bay.

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